quinta-feira, 30 de janeiro de 2014

ENTJ/INTJ/ENTP/INTP - Tipos Psicologicos - "NTs" e os sonhos

Hoje houve uma conversa interessante na comunidade de "NT".

Eu sempre associei a capacidade de estruturação e execução ao "S", mas hoje, por conta de um topico sobre sonhos que lancei, conclui que a produtividade vem muito mais do "J", que deve funcionar como os signos fios da astrologia, do que do "s", que não seria capaz de estruturar a criação de uma filme com temática psicodelica, por exemplo.


Segue na sequencia o diálogo interessante que se sucedeu.

"Ana Paula Caruso Silva Let me ask you something: How do you people deal with your dreams? Do these dreams got some meaning or effect on your everyday life?

Harreson Johnson I always lucid dream, so there's nothing to really think too much about.
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Todd S. Gallows I dream the way I imagine, so I log my dreams and use them for ideas later on.
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Ana Paula Caruso Silva To both of you Harreson and Todd) "dream" is just like be awakened? Is that a continuum, your brain uses the same language in both states?
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Harreson Johnson No clue. I've just always been aware that I was dreaming.
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Todd S. Gallows Well when I say I imagine the way I dream, it's that the types of ideas, imagery, and concepts take on similar styles and logic. I tend to have very abstract dreams often with macabre imagery, yet inhabited by people who treat the strange as the mundane. I moonlight writing screenplays and have made short films, and I employ the same approach to them.
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Ana Paula Caruso Silva And there is some kind of difference in your emocional state through this images, or is a totally mental experience?
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Todd S. Gallows Totally mental experience. Though I will also say, tapping into emotions whether they be dreams, internally, or in writing, is something I can't do, and often feels inauthentic doing when I try.
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Ana Paula Caruso Silva This material based on dreams, are they published? Site?
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Ana Paula Caruso Silva You are "J" or "P", Todd?
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Todd S. Gallows INTJ.
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Todd S. Gallows But my imagination seems to work like an INFP with an underdeveloped F.
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Ana Paula Caruso Silva Funny... While you saying how you use your brain images, i though you're "p". Until i saw the "Cutaway" you post. It tells an history totally "J". I mean, the protagonist seems to me to be a "J" person.
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Todd S. Gallows That's interesting, I don't disagree, but what makes you say that, exactly?
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Ana Paula Caruso Silva I don't know if i fully comprehend the trailer but that issue of someone who try to "correct" reality and "really devoted to his ideology" looks very "J" to me...

There is a breakthrogh factor in that history, even it is a violent one, and that is ver...Ver mais
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Ana Paula Caruso Silva "he can't repress his repression"
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Todd S. Gallows Yeah, that all makes sense. I tend to explore characters who are emotionally detached, unconventional, but have a certain method or way to them.

I believe I got a 78% J the last time I took the test. And in general, I score around 75% 80% in the J category.
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Todd S. Gallows The way my imagination works seems to be what I was exposed to as a child, and the way I perceived things. There are strange things I remember to this day, they seem like dreams, but when I ask people, often enough, they did happen.
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Ana Paula Caruso Silva Perfect.
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Todd S. Gallows That makes enough sense. My imagination works as a perfect hybrid. I start with the wild, surreal, and abstract concepts and ideas, but work in quite a structured manner to put it together. And I also try to make sure the surreal narratives I weave still lead to something and have something to say.
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Ana Paula Caruso Silva In other times i'd would think that this was an "s" type of behavior. But now i understand that the factor responsible for that structure is "j"... Very interesting.
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Todd S. Gallows Definitely more to do with J than S. S types are more about practicality and realism. Their ideas are usually informed by traditions, or what is known and concrete. The N (Ni) fuels the abstract thinking and strange concepts. The J function is more about planning, structuring, and seeing things through.
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